On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 10:11:20 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 12:54:46AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: >> On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 17:15:50 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >>> On Sun, Dec 08, 2019 at 08:41:45AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: >>>> On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 08:43:08 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >>>>> On Sat, Dec 07, 2019 at 01:05:17PM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: >>>>>> Hi Paul, >>>>>> >>>>>> This patch set fixes minor issues I noticed while reading your >>>>>> recent updates. >>>>> >>>>> Queued and pushed, along with a fix to another of my typos, thank >>>>> you very much! >>>>> >>>>>> Apart from the changes, I'd like you to mention in the answer to >>>>>> Quick Quiz 9.43 that modern Intel CPUs don't execute x86_64 >>>>>> instructions directly, but decode them into uOPs (via MOP) and >>>>>> keep them in a uOP cache [1]. >>>>>> So the execution cycle is not necessarily corresponds to instruction >>>>>> count, but heavily depends on the behavior of the microarch, which >>>>>> is not predictable without actually running the code. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1]: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/skylake_(server) >>>>> >>>>> My thought is that I should review the "Hardware and it Habits" chapter, >>>>> add this information if it is not already present, and then make the >>>>> answer to this Quick Quiz refer back to that. Does that seem reasonable? >>>> >>>> Yes, it sounds quite reasonable! >>>> >>>> (Skimming through the chapter...) >>>> >>>> So Section 3.1.1 lightly touches pipelining. Section 3.2 mostly discusses >>>> memory sub-systems. >>>> >>>> Modern Intel architectures can be thought of as superscalar RISC >>>> processors which emulate x86 ISA. The transformation of x86 instructions >>>> into uOPs can be thought of as another layer of optimization >>>> (sometimes "de-optimization" from compiler writer's POV) ;-). >>>> >>>> But deep-diving this topic would cost you another chapter/appendix. >>>> I'm not sure if it's worthwhile for perfbook. >>>> Maybe it would suffice to lightly touch the difficulty of >>>> predicting execution cycles of particular instruction streams >>>> on modern microprocessors (not limited to Intel's), and put >>>> a few citations of textbooks/reference manuals. >>> >>> What I did was to add a rough diagram and a paragraph or two of >>> explanation to Section 3.1.1, then add a reference to that section >>> in the Quick Quiz. >> >> I'd like to see a couple of more keywords to be mentioned here other >> than "pipeline". "Super-scalar" is present in Glossary, but >> "Superscalar" looks much common these days. Appended below is >> a tentative patch I made to show you my idea. Please feel free >> to edit as you'd like before applying it. >> >> Another point I'd like to suggest. >> Figure 9.23 and the following figures still show the result on >> a 16 CPU system. Looks like it is difficult to make plots of 448-thread >> system corresponding to them. Can you add info on the HW system >> where those 16 CPU results were obtained in the beginning of >> Section 9.5.4.2? >> >> Thanks, Akira >> >> -------------8<------------------- >> >From 7e5c17a2e816a23bb12aa23f18ed96d5e820fc3a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 >> From: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> >> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 00:23:59 +0900 >> Subject: [TENTATIVE PATCH] cpu/overview: Mention approaches other than 'pipelining' >> >> Also remove "-" from "Super-scaler" in Glossary. >> >> Signed-off-by: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> > > Good points, thank you! > > Applied with a few inevitable edits. ;-) Quite a few edits! Thank you. Let me reiterate my earlier suggestion: >> Another point I'd like to suggest. >> Figure 9.23 and the following figures still show the result on >> a 16 CPU system. Looks like it is difficult to make plots of 448-thread >> system corresponding to them. Can you add info on the HW system >> where those 16 CPU results were obtained in the beginning of >> Section 9.5.4.2? Can you look into this as well? Thanks, Akira > > Thanx, Paul > >> --- >> cpu/overview.tex | 22 ++++++++++++++-------- >> defer/rcuusage.tex | 2 +- >> glossary.tex | 4 ++-- >> 3 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-) >> >> diff --git a/cpu/overview.tex b/cpu/overview.tex >> index b80f47c1..191c1c68 100644 >> --- a/cpu/overview.tex >> +++ b/cpu/overview.tex >> @@ -42,11 +42,13 @@ In the early 1980s, the typical microprocessor fetched an instruction, >> decoded it, and executed it, typically taking \emph{at least} three >> clock cycles to complete one instruction before proceeding to the next. >> In contrast, the CPU of the late 1990s and of the 2000s execute >> -many instructions simultaneously, using a deep \emph{pipeline} to control >> +many instructions simultaneously, using a combination of approaches >> +including \emph{pipeline}, \emph{superscalar}, \emph{out-of-order}, >> +and \emph{speculative} execution, to control >> the flow of instructions internally to the CPU. >> Some cores have more than one hardware thread, which is variously called >> \emph{simultaneous multithreading} (SMT) or \emph{hyperthreading} >> -(HT)~\cite{JFennel1973SMT}. >> +(HT)~\cite{JFennel1973SMT}, >> each of which appears as >> an independent CPU to software, at least from a functional viewpoint. >> These modern hardware features can greatly improve performance, as >> @@ -96,14 +98,17 @@ Figure~\ref{fig:cpu:CPU Meets a Pipeline Flush}. >> \end{figure} >> >> This gets even worse in the increasingly common case of hyperthreading >> -(or SMT, if you prefer). >> +(or SMT, if you prefer).\footnote{ >> + Superscalar is involved in most cases, too. >> +} >> In this case, all the hardware threads sharing a core also share that >> core's resources, including registers, cache, execution units, and so on. >> -The instruction streams are decoded into micro-operations, and use of the >> -shared execution units and the hundreds of hardware registers is coordinated >> +The instruction streams might be decoded into micro-operations, >> +and use of the shared execution units and the hundreds of hardware >> +registers can be coordinated >> by a micro-operation scheduler. >> -A rough diagram of a two-threaded core is shown in >> -\Cref{fig:cpu:Rough View of Modern Micro-Architecture}, >> +A rough diagram of such a two-threaded core is shown in >> +\cref{fig:cpu:Rough View of Modern Micro-Architecture}, >> and more accurate (and thus more complex) diagrams are available in >> textbooks and scholarly papers.\footnote{ >> Here is one example for a late-2010s Intel CPU: >> @@ -123,7 +128,8 @@ of clairvoyance. >> In particular, adding an instruction to a tight loop can sometimes >> actually speed up execution, counterintuitive though that might be. >> >> -Unfortunately, pipeline flushes are not the only hazards in the obstacle >> +Unfortunately, pipeline flushes and shared-resource contentions >> +are not the only hazards in the obstacle >> course that modern CPUs must run. >> The next section covers the hazards of referencing memory. >> >> diff --git a/defer/rcuusage.tex b/defer/rcuusage.tex >> index 7fe633c3..fa04ddb6 100644 >> --- a/defer/rcuusage.tex >> +++ b/defer/rcuusage.tex >> @@ -139,7 +139,7 @@ that of the ideal synchronization-free workload. >> are long gone. >> >> But those of you who read >> - \Cref{sec:cpu:Pipelined CPUs} >> + \cref{sec:cpu:Pipelined CPUs} >> carefully already knew all of this! >> >> These counter-intuitive results of course means that any >> diff --git a/glossary.tex b/glossary.tex >> index c10ffe4e..4a3aa796 100644 >> --- a/glossary.tex >> +++ b/glossary.tex >> @@ -382,11 +382,11 @@ >> as well as its cache so as to ensure that the software sees >> the memory operations performed by this CPU as if they >> were carried out in program order. >> -\item[Super-Scalar CPU:] >> +\item[Superscalar CPU:] >> A scalar (non-vector) CPU capable of executing multiple instructions >> concurrently. >> This is a step up from a pipelined CPU that executes multiple >> - instructions in an assembly-line fashion---in a super-scalar >> + instructions in an assembly-line fashion---in a superscalar >> CPU, each stage of the pipeline would be capable of handling >> more than one instruction. >> For example, if the conditions were exactly right, >> -- >> 2.17.1 >>