On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:33 PM Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 2018/12/13 00:01:33 +0800, Junchang Wang wrote: > > On 12/11/18 11:42 PM, Akira Yokosawa wrote: > >> From 7e7c3a20d08831cd64b77a4e8d8f693b4725ef89 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > >> From: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> > >> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:37:11 +0900 > >> Subject: [PATCH 3/4] CodeSamples: Fix definition of cmpxchg() in api-gcc.h > >> > >> Do the same change as CodeSamples/formal/litmus/api.h. > >> > >> Signed-off-by: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> > >> --- > >> CodeSamples/api-pthreads/api-gcc.h | 5 +++-- > >> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > >> > >> diff --git a/CodeSamples/api-pthreads/api-gcc.h b/CodeSamples/api-pthreads/api-gcc.h > >> index 3afe340..b66f4b9 100644 > >> --- a/CodeSamples/api-pthreads/api-gcc.h > >> +++ b/CodeSamples/api-pthreads/api-gcc.h > >> @@ -168,8 +168,9 @@ struct __xchg_dummy { > >> ({ \ > >> typeof(*ptr) _____actual = (o); \ > >> \ > >> - __atomic_compare_exchange_n(ptr, (void *)&_____actual, (n), 1, \ > >> - __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST, __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST) ? (o) : (o)+1; \ > >> + __atomic_compare_exchange_n((ptr), (void *)&_____actual, (n), 0, \ > >> + __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST, __ATOMIC_RELAXED); \ > >> + _____actual; \ > >> }) > >> > > > > Hi Akira, > > > > Another reason that the performance of cmpxchg is catching up with cmpxchg_weak is that __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST is replaced by __ATOMIC_RELAXED in this patch. The use of __ATOMIC_RELAXED means if the CAS primitive fails, the relaxed semantic is used, rather than sequential consistent. Following are some experiment results: > > > > # If __ATOMIC_RELAXED is used for both cmpxchg and cmpxchg_weak > > > > ./count_lim_atomic 64 uperf > > ns/update: 290 > > > > ./count_lim_atomic_weak 64 uperf > > ns/update: 301 > > > > > > # and then if __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST is used for both cmpxchg and cmpxchg_weak > > > > ./count_lim_atomic 64 uperf > > ns/update: 316 > > > > ./count_lim_atomic_weak 64 uperf > > ns/update: 302 > > > > ./count_lim_atomic 120 uperf > > ns/update: 630 > > > > ./count_lim_atomic_weak 120 uperf > > ns/update: 568 > > > > The results show that if we want to ensure sequential consistency when the CAS primitive fails, cmpxchg_weak performs better than cmpxchg. It seems that the (type of variation, failure_memorder) pair affects performance. I know that PPC uses LL/SC to simulate CAS. But what's the relationship between a simulated CAS and the memory order. This is interesting because as far as I know, PPC and ARM are using LL/SC to simulate atomic primitives such as CAS and FAA. So FAA might have the same behavior. > > > > In actually, I'm not very clear about the meaning of different types of failure memory orders. For example, when should we use __ATOMIC_RELAXED, rather than __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST, if a CAS fails? What happen if __ATOMIC_RELAXED is used for x86? The one I'm look at is https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/_005f_005fatomic-Builtins.html . Do you know some resources about this? I can look into this tomorrow. Thanks. > > Hi Junchang, > > In Linux-kernel speak, Documentation/core-api/atomic.rst says: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > atomic_xchg must provide explicit memory barriers around the operation. :: > > int atomic_cmpxchg(atomic_t *v, int old, int new); > > This performs an atomic compare exchange operation on the atomic value v, > with the given old and new values. Like all atomic_xxx operations, > atomic_cmpxchg will only satisfy its atomicity semantics as long as all > other accesses of \*v are performed through atomic_xxx operations. > > atomic_cmpxchg must provide explicit memory barriers around the operation, > although if the comparison fails then no memory ordering guarantees are > required. Hi Akira, Thanks for the link which is helpful. > > [snip] > > The routines xchg() and cmpxchg() must provide the same exact > memory-barrier semantics as the atomic and bit operations returning > values. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The 2nd __ATOMIC_RELAXED to __atomic_compare_exchange_n() matches this > lack of requirement. > > On x86_64, __atomic_compare_exchange_n() is translated to the same code > in both cases (with the help of litmus7's cross compiling): > > #START _litmus_P1 > xorl %eax, %eax > movl $0, 4(%rsp) > lock cmpxchgl %r10d, (%rdx) > je .L36 > movl %eax, 4(%rsp) > .L36: > movl 4(%rsp), %eax > > There is no difference between the code with __ATOMIC_RELAXED and > the code with __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST as the 2nd parameter. As you can see, > there is no memory barrier instruction emitted. My understanding is that x86 is using the TSO memory model, such that it is unnecessary to add extra barriers. Is that right? > > On PPC, there is a difference. With __ATOMIC_RELAXED as 2nd parameter, > the code looks like: > > #START _litmus_P1 > sync > .L34: > lwarx 7,0,9 > cmpwi 0,7,0 > bne 0,.L35 > stwcx. 5,0,9 > bne 0,.L34 > isync > .L35: > > , OTOH with __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST as 2nd argument: > > #START _litmus_P1 > sync > .L34: > lwarx 7,0,9 > cmpwi 0,7,0 > bne 0,.L35 > stwcx. 5,0,9 > bne 0,.L34 > .L35: > isync > > See the difference of position of label .L35. > (Note that we are talking about strong version of cmpxchg().) > > Does the above example make sense to you? > Yes. It makes sense. For curiosity, I checked the assembly code of weak atomic_cmpxchg (the fourth argument is set to 1) with __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST. The code is shown below: #START _litmus_P3 sync lwarx 9,0,8 cmpwi 0,9,1 bne 0,.L34 stwcx. 4,0,8 .L34: The code shows that the weak atomic_cmpxchg fails because (1) the content of *ptr is not equal to argument old, or (2) the store operation fails because this thread loses reservation for the memory location referenced by ptr. In contrast, the strong atomic_cmpxchg (its assembly code is shown below) contains a while-loop and fails only if (1) *ptr is not equal to argument old. So the weak atomic_cmpxchg could fail "spuriously" and it is the caller's responsibility to retry it. #START _litmus_P1 sync .L34: lwarx 7,0,9 cmpwi 0,7,0 bne 0,.L35 stwcx. 5,0,9 bne 0,.L34 .L35: isync So for the performance comparison, my hypothesis is that the weak version may perform slightly better at high levels of contention because if there is a "spuriously" failure, atomic_cmpxchg returns immediately, which gives other threads chances to successfully perform their atomic_cmpxchg instructions. For other cases, the strong atomic_cmpxchg works pretty well because it avoids rebuilding arguments old and new. Does that make sense? Thanks, --Junchang > Thanks, Akira > > > > > > > --Junchang > > > > > > > >> static __inline__ int atomic_cmpxchg(atomic_t *v, int old, int new) > >> >