On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 05:12:18PM +0800, Yubin Ruan wrote: > 2017-10-06 13:52 GMT+08:00 Yubin Ruan <ablacktshirt@xxxxxxxxx>: > > Hi, > > I saw lots of discussions on the web about possible race when doing > > synchronization between multiple threads/processes with lock or atomic > > operations[1][2]. From my point of view most them are over-worrying. > > But I want to point out some particular issue here to see whether > > anyone have anything to say. > > > > Imagine two processes communicate using only a uint32_t variable in > > shared memory, like this: > > > > // uint32_t variable in shared memory > > uint32_t flag = 0; > > > > //process 1 > > while(1) { > > if(READ_ONCE(flag) == 0) { > > do_something(); > > WRITE_ONCE(flag, 1); // let another process to run > > } else { > > continue; > > } > > } > > > > //process 2 > > while(1) { > > if(READ_ONCE(flag) == 1) { > > printf("process 2 running...\n"); > > WRITE_ONCE(flag, 0); // let another process to run > > } else { > > continue; > > } > > } > > > > On X86 or X64, I expect this code to run correctly, that is, I will > > got the two `printf' to printf one after one. That is because: > > > > 1) on X86/X64, load/store on 32-bits variable are atomic > > Ah...this assumption is wrong at the first place. Atomic access on > 4-bytes integers is guaranteed only when these integer is aligned on a > 4-bytes memory address boundary... Indeed, accesses crossing cachelines normally won't guarantee you much of anything other than painful debugging sessions. ;-) Thanx, Paul > Yubin > > > 2) I use READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE to prevent possibly harmful compiler > > optimization on `flag'. > > 3) I use only one variable to communicate between two processes, > > so there is no need for any kind of barrier. > > > > Does anyone have any objection at that? > > > > I know using a lock or atomic operation will save me a lot of > > argument, but I think those things are unnecessary at this > > circumstance, and it matter where performance matter, so I am picky > > here... > > > > Yubin > > > > [1]: https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2013/01/06/benign-data-races-what-could-possibly-go-wrong > > [2]: https://www.usenix.org/conference/osdi10/ad-hoc-synchronization-considered-harmful > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe perfbook" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html