On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 05:14:57PM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: > On 2017/05/02 19:47:19 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Wed, May 03, 2017 at 09:23:11AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: > >> On 2017/05/03 09:09:37 +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: > >>> Hi Paul, > >>> > >>> While reviewing your recent update in "Hunting Heisenbugs" section, > >>> I found the analogy with particle physics didn't sit well with me. > >>> > >>> "Heisenbug" is defined as: > >>> > >>>> attempts to track down the heisenbug causes it to radically change > >>>> its symptoms or even disappear completely. > >>> > >>> "Anti-heisenbug" is introduced as: > >>> > >>>> Fortunately, particle physics is up to the task: Why not create > >>>> an anti-heisenbug to annihilate the heisenbug? > >>> > >>> At this point, "anti-heisenbug" seems to mean a patch that fixes > >>> the heisenbug. > >>> > >>> The use of anti-something in particle physics does not go along > >>> with this usage. > >>> > >>> For example, antiproton is an antiparticle of proton. > >>> antiproton has mostly the same property as proton, > >>> with the exception of electric charge and magnetic moment. > >>> Also, an antiproton and an antielectron (positron) can compose > >>> an antihydrogen atom. Well, I'm sure you know all about this. > >>> > >>> So, if you employ this line of reasoning, an anti-heisenbug should > >>> also be a bug with something opposite in nature. > >>> > >>> If a heisenbug is a bug which vanishes when it is being tracked down, > >>> an anti-heisenbug would be a bug which only emerges when it (or > >>> something else) is being tracked down. > >>> > >>> However, it is not obvious you can create an anti-heisenbug for > >>> a particular heisenbug so that when the two are combined, the symptoms > >>> of both bugs to "annihilate". > >>> > >>> So I'm wondering "What was Paul's intention in using the word 'annihilate'?". > >>> > >>> In Section "Add Delay", anti-heisenbug is used as: > >>> > >>>> Once you spot a bug involving a race condition, it is frequently > >>>> possible to create an anti-heisenbug by adding delay in this manner. > >>> > >>> This "anti-heisenbug" is not a bug, rather, it is a means to increase > >>> the possibility of a given heisenbug to appear. > >>> > >> > >> Oops, I sent this prematurely. > >> But you might be able to see my point here. > >> > >> This is not an important question, so please give it a look when you have > >> done with whatever issue you are working on. > > > > I freely admit that I am taking a fair amount of "poetic license" here. ;-) > > So, what about adding a footnote like this? That isn't bad at all! But let's take a look at several possible approaches: o Continue using "anti-heisenbug", but remove the current definition. (To the extent that it could be considered to be a definition.) o Use the following analogy: When you annihilate an electron and a positron, you don't get nothingness, you instead get an energetic photon. Similarly, when you annihilate a heisenbug and an anti-heisenbug, you don't (usually) get nothingness, instead, you get a (hopefully) easier-to-locate bug. o The solution you propose below. o Leave as is, and assume that people will get the "poetic license". o Additional ideas here! o Any of the above, but have a quick quiz on the definition instead of a footnote or an inline definition/explanation. Thoughts? Thanx, Paul > Thanks, Akira > > --8<-->8-- > >From cdf227d76d6ec3b40f2dfd6f1a55aba7a1e1bb49 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 16:40:15 +0900 > Subject: [PATCH] debugging: Add footnote on the use of 'anti-heisenbug' > > Signed-off-by: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@xxxxxxxxx> > --- > debugging/debugging.tex | 6 +++++- > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/debugging/debugging.tex b/debugging/debugging.tex > index e621ebd..146c696 100644 > --- a/debugging/debugging.tex > +++ b/debugging/debugging.tex > @@ -1386,7 +1386,11 @@ causes it to radically change its symptoms or even disappear completely. > If the field of physics inspired the name of this problem, it is only > logical that we should look to the field of physics for the solution. > Fortunately, particle physics is up to the task: > -Why not create an anti-heisenbug to annihilate the heisenbug? > +Why not create an anti-heisenbug\footnote{ > + Here, we'll use ``anti-heisenbug'' to denote whatever means > + which would help us track down a given heisenbug, rather than > + its counterpart in a scrict sense of particle physics.} > +to annihilate the heisenbug? > > This section describes a number of ways to do just that: > > -- > 2.7.4 > > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe perfbook" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html