Greetings, I've been working on this configuration since I now have SSL enabled on our directory server. We're running netscape version 4.16. So far I've downloaded the Netscape SDK version 4.14 for C 32 bit version. Set these libs and headers out in places where they can be found. configure picks up the files and the compile seems to do fine linking in the ldapssl library and produces an executable that works ok with SSL turned off. With SSL enabled and the SSL path set to point at a cert DB file from communicator 4.x browser. This was per the instructions from the SDK. With snoop running against port 636 on our LDAP server machine I'm seeing the chat between the test host and the LDAP server but of course it's encrypted. So far so good. On the test host however I'm getting the error: login: pam_ldap: ldap_simple_bind Can't contact LDAP server Now it is contacting it. And seems to be encrypted. Also the pam_ldap module produces the secmod.db file once it has been used one time. I find that I'm at the point where I have no more clues. Is there a way to get a more verbose error message? Anyone been down this road too? Thanks, Mark Mark A. Shaw University of Arkansas Computing Services