Hello, Ok the pam config for spop3d is: auth required /lib/security/pam_warn.so account required /lib/security/pam_permit.so auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_mysql.so user=root passwd=xxxx host=144.x.x.x db=asphalis table=procmail_user usercolumn=username passwdcolumn=password password sufficient /lib/security/pam_mysql.so user=root passwd=xxxx host=144.x.x.x db=asphalis table=procmail_user usercolumn=username passwdcolumn=password Yes, I am using mysql(it does hold usernames longer than 13). The table structure is: CREATE TABLE tabke ( domain varchar(60) NOT NULL, username varchar(100) NOT NULL, password varchar(20) NOT NULL, storelocal char(1) NOT NULL, local_mail varchar(200) NOT NULL, storeext char(1) NOT NULL, external_mail varchar(100), email_add varchar(60) NOT NULL, proc_user_id int(11) DEFAULT '0' NOT NULL auto_increment, PRIMARY KEY (proc_user_id), KEY proc_user_id (proc_user_id) ) Hope this is enough info to go by. Thanks for helping out. Cheers, Chris