Thanks for your help. One thing I forgot to mention was that I also tried moving the "AddModule" and "LoadModule" directives to different places in their respective lists in my httpd.conf file. I tried top and bottom, and I also tried disabling all other mod_auth_* modules. None of these things seemed to have an effect. That said, I tried the newer version of mod_auth_pam. Sure enough, it's getting called. Here's the new log entry: [Mon Sep 2 15:30:45 2002] [error] [client xx.xx.xx.xx] (13)Permission denied: PAM: user 'mw26' - not authenticated: Authentication failure And still nothing in the syslog file. I'm using the pam_warn and pam_permit setup mentioned before. ldd confirms that the module is indeed linked against libpam. -MW >most likely, mod_auth_pam never gets called by Apache. That happens >easily because the calling order of the various authentication modules >is somewhat confusing. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx