I missed the distinction between ttyp1 and tty1 in my /etc/securetty which is different from my host distro redhat, now that I have built and run LFS. Alan >> I'm building my pam.d entries from scratch, and have run into a problem >> with su - not authenticating. >> here is the log: >> Aug 16 18:03:34 webby PAM-warn[25069]: function=[pam_sm_authenticate] >> service=[su] terminal=[ttyp1] user=[root] ruser=[Alan] rhost=[<unknown>] >> Aug 16 18:03:35 webby su[25069]: pam_authenticate: Authentication failure >> Aug 16 18:03:35 webby su[25069]: - ttyp1 Alan-root >> the rhost= entry I am having trouble resolving. There appears to be no >> need for a rhosts.conf file or similar. >> Alan Epson Inkjet Printer FAQ: http://welcome.to/epson-inkjet