On Mon, 2021-04-12 at 05:48 -0700, Hal Murray wrote: > > Did you attempt to pass NULL for the key and zero for it's length > > to the > > EVP_MAC_init() call? > > Yes. > > We can do better. If we have to use dup/free, we can move the > EVP_MAC_init() > to before the dup, out of the timing path. > > My model is that initialization is 2 parts. The first is turning the > key into > a big table. The second is initializing a small amount of state that > is > whatever is needed/updated by EVP_MAC_update(). > > I was hoping that EVP_MAC_init() with NULL key would bypass the first > step and > do the second. We would have to introduce the special semantics similar to EVP_CipherInit() with EVP_MAC_init(). I.e., that the EVP_CipherInit() with NULL key keeps the key schedule from the previous initialization. > If the second step involves a lot of computation we get into the > space/time > tradeoff of computing it during step one and saving it in case > EVP_MAC_init is > called with NULL key. > > If there was a copy operation we could use it instead of dup/free. I do not think we want to introduce the copy operation. We are trying to get out of the copy() pattern as it is much harder to handle correctly than the dup(). > Where is the code that does the key setup? I expect it will be > obvious after > I see it, but I don't know my way around that linkage yet. I'm using > the > default AES-128-CBC. > > --------- > > I don't think I've said it explicitly, but thanks for the change to > the API > for EVP_MAC_init() > > ---------- > > Should PKEY be a potentially interesting approach for something like > this? I > think it was suggested months ago. One advantage is that the code > works with > 1.1.1. > > It's horribly slow in 3.0 > > alpha14: > 0.777 CMAC > 7.533 PKEY > 3.323 PKEY preload > 0.392 EVP_MAC > 0.308 EVP_MAC Preload with dup+free > 0.102 EVP_MAC Preload (no dup, wrong answer) > > 1.1.1k: > 0.285 CMAC > 0.550 PKEY > 0.196 PKEY preload > > > -- Tomáš Mráz No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. Turkish proverb [You'll know whether the road is wrong if you carefully listen to your conscience.]