Re: Questions about secure curves

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To clarify, Firefox/Mozilla the organization enforces an unexplained
policy of prohibiting all included CAs from issuing any P-521
certificate, thus effectively banning their use on public servers
regardless of technical abilities.

On 15/10/2019 19:02, Mark Hack wrote:
I believe that Firefox does still support P-521 but Chrome does not.
Also be aware that if you set server side cipher selection and use
default curves, that OpenSSL orders the curves weakest to strongest (
even with @STRENGTH) so you will end up forcing P-256.


On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 17:24 +0200, Jakob Bohm via openssl-users wrote:
On 15/10/2019 15:43, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Hi!

I was looking at the output of „openssl ecparam -list_curves” and
trying to choose a curve for the web server together with
letsencrypt.

It seems, letsencrypt supports prime256v1, secp256r1, and
secp384r1.

Then I found the site https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/.
I have problems mapping the openssl curves with the curve names
from
the web site, but I have the feeling that none of the choices
above
are safe.

safecurves.cr.yp.to lists some curves that Daniel J. Bernstein
(who runs the cr.yp.to domain) wants to promote, and emphasizes
problems with many other popular curves.

prime256v1 = secp256r1 = P-256 and secp384r1 = P-384 are two curves
that the US government (NIST in cooperation with NSA) wants to
promote.

It so happens that the CA/Browser forum has mysteriously decided
that the big (US made) web browsers should only trust CAs that
only accept curves that the US government promotes.  So if you
want your SSL/TLS implementation to work with widely distributed
US Browsers (Chrome, Safari, Firefox, IE, Edge etc.) you have to
use the US government curves P-256 and P-384 .  The third US
governmentcurve P-521 is banned by Firefox, so no trusted CA can
support it.


Enjoy

Jakob
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