I have an odd situation, and I don't know what the expect behavior is. It was experienced when attempting to validate a path for usercenter.checkpoint.com. If I use s_client and `-showcerts`, I get a chain that terminates in an old Root called "Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority". Its old and deprecated, so I tried to root or anchor trust in the next lower intermediate. The next lower intermediate is called ''VeriSign Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority - G5". Its sent in the chain, *but* I downloaded it out of band from Symantec's site. Then I ran s_client again with the downloaded version of the certifcate (see below). It results in "Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)". After some digging, it looks like ''VeriSign Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority - G5" are two different certificates with two different serial numbers. One is sent in the chain and one is available for download. What changed is the G5 certificate was promoted to a self signed root due to the former CA deprecation. But it reused the Disntiguished Name and public key, so Authority Key Identifier and Subject Key Identifier stayed the same. What is the expected behavior here? Should it fail or should it succeed? Does the chain override the root or anchor? I think RFC 4518 treats them as different certificates, so it just looks like the old G5 certificate is suprious and unnecessary. (... but confusing due to the DN/SKI reuse)). Jeff ********** $ openssl s_client -connect usercenter.checkpoint.com:443 -tls1 \ -servername usercenter.checkpoint.com \ -CAfile VeriSign-Class-3-Public-Primary-Certification-Authority-G5.pem ... --- New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is AES128-SHA Server public key is 2048 bit Secure Renegotiation IS supported Compression: NONE Expansion: NONE No ALPN negotiated SSL-Session: Protocol : TLSv1 Cipher : AES128-SHA Session-ID: C58DA6CCEDD45F1BBA0FEE06C8A83B999E94105156DBF68365E98FD9E930668E Session-ID-ctx: Master-Key: F725717020A58405B9B08366F46157F606F7B37CB4142B690F613F43C1073BB6E178A2D1FECB7A735D9359FDE3E2B6F0 Key-Arg : None PSK identity: None PSK identity hint: None SRP username: None Start Time: 1432427549 Timeout : 7200 (sec) Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)