> currently, this is an error: > > 0 dkg at alice:~$ openssl ciphers -v ALL:!NO-SUCH-CIPHER > bash: !NO-SUCH-CIPHER: event not found > 0 dkg at alice:~$ Yeah, but that's coming from bash, not openssl :) ; openssl ciphers -v ALL | wc 111 675 8403 ; openssl ciphers -v ALL:!FOOBAR | wc 111 675 8403 RC4 in LOW has a bit of pushback so far. My cover for it is that the IETF says "don't use it." So I think saying "if you want it, say so" is the way to go. /r$