On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 03:58:23PM +0000, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL wrote: > On 11/16/16, 8:55 AM, "openssh-unix-dev on behalf of Juha-Matti Tapio" <openssh-unix-dev-bounces+uri=ll.mit.edu@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of jmtapio@xxxxxxx> wrote: > I do agree that requiring authentication to access public keys is not > a very pleasant way to do PKCS11. > > The point is not as much of being “not very pleasant”. The point is to avoid breaking it for everything and everybody else (like, forcing them to authenticate for public key operations – which would break all the existing scripts), for the sake of one screwed-up HSM device. The patch does not change any existing functionality. It only adds a mechanism that allows users to force providing a pin code even if one is not asked by default. Nothing happens if the users do not trigger the mechanism and I am not sure why anything would break even if they did provide a pin code. > …given that we are unable to modify the HSM itself. > > Are you so sure? Does SafeNet maybe have a firmware upgrade? Did your people talk to SafeNet, with PKCS#11 v2.40 document in hand? Perhaps they can be convinced…? The software is upgradeable but it is not something we can influence. We are mainly concerned about interoperability with existing installations. > Btw as a response to other comments, the justification for using an > environment variable to point to a pin code file instead of > environment variable with a pin code is that there is a risk that > runtime environment might be inadvertently leaked in some debug > outputs or verification scripts. > > Yes, very valid concern and approach. As I said, *my* concern is avoiding the need to provide a PIN for non-private keys and certs. If the pin is not provided using our mechanism, then it is NULL and C_Login is not called, just as without our patch. So no change there to existing behaviour. _______________________________________________ openssh-unix-dev mailing list openssh-unix-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.mindrot.org/mailman/listinfo/openssh-unix-dev
