Ok, so you think that the format of the binary would influence the kernel to change the permissions on the user's behalf? There's not much prose explanation here, and I don't understand why the kernel would do something like this. I just wanted to use a static binary to eliminate library dependency issues between my host machine and the target machine. I had no idea that settings like this would carry over to my task at hand.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Mike Krinkin <krinkin.m.u@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:45:17PM -0500, Kenneth Adam Miller wrote:
> I got the strace output of my non-C binary (I filtered the noise out of the
> output for you):
>
> mmap(NULL, 8192, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0)
>
> I also have readelf -l output:
>
> Elf file type is EXEC (Executable file)
> Entry point 0x401311
> There are 7 program headers, starting at offset 64
>
> Program Headers:
> Type Offset VirtAddr PhysAddr
> FileSiz MemSiz Flags Align
> LOAD 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000400000 0x0000000000400000
> 0x00000000000db604 0x00000000000db604 R E 1000
> LOAD 0x00000000000dc1c0 0x00000000004dd1c0 0x00000000004dd1c0
> 0x0000000000006220 0x00000000000091dc RW 1000
> NOTE 0x00000000000001c8 0x00000000004001c8 0x00000000004001c8
> 0x0000000000000024 0x0000000000000024 R 4
> GNU_EH_FRAME 0x00000000000d5680 0x00000000004d5680 0x00000000004d5680
> 0x0000000000005f84 0x0000000000005f84 R 4
> GNU_STACK 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000
> 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 RWE 0
Well, probably this is a bit more relevant:
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/mm/mmap.c#L1281
As far as i can see, kernel sets READ_IMPLIES_EXEC flag here:
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/fs/binfmt_elf.c#L844
if executable_stack != EXSTACK_DISABLE_X, and executable_stack initialized
here:
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/fs/binfmt_elf.c#L781
if GNU_STACK has an executable flag set (and i suppose, that RWE means, that
in your case GNU_STACK indeed has exectuable flag set).
It may be a reason, i'm not shure though. May be this can help:
http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/personality.2.html
> TLS 0x00000000000dc1c0 0x00000000004dd1c0 0x00000000004dd1c0
> 0x0000000000000100 0x0000000000000100 R 10
> GNU_RELRO 0x00000000000dc1c0 0x00000000004dd1c0 0x00000000004dd1c0
> 0x0000000000005e40 0x0000000000005e40 RW 20
>
> Section to Segment mapping:
> Segment Sections...
> 00 .note.gnu.build-id .init .text .fini .gcc_except_table .rodata
> .debug_gdb_scripts .eh_frame .eh_frame_hdr
> 01 .tdata .data.rel.ro.local .data.rel.ro .init_array .got .got.plt
> .data .bss
> 02 .note.gnu.build-id
> 03 .eh_frame_hdr
> 04
> 05 .tdata
> 06 .tdata .data.rel.ro.local .data.rel.ro .init_array .got .got.plt
>
> Some notes:
>
> As a test, I changed the non-C binary's target device file to /dev/zero,
> and then I could see that the non-C mmap attempt would succeed just fine.
>
> After further verification and debugging based on guidance from another
> forum, I have convinced that the vm_flags change must be occuring somewhere
> in kernel land after control flow has left user land. Now I need to figure
> out how to use a kernel debugger or kprobes to walk through the execution
> of mmap callback delegation and see where the flags parameter is being
> changed.
>
> I was pointed out to this:
> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/mm/mmap.c#L1312
>
> But why would my vm_flags be changed by the kernel? And what can I do to
> get this to stop? Why is the kernel changing the vm_flags for a non-C
> binary using my device file, but not for either a C binary using my device
> file or any type of binary that's not using my device file?
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Kenneth Adam Miller <
> kennethadammiller@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Mike Krinkin <krinkin.m.u@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, i have a couple of questions to clarify, if you don't mind
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:04:28AM -0500, Kenneth Adam Miller wrote:
> >> > I have a custom drive and userland program pair that I'm using for a
> >> very
> >> > special use case at my workplace where we are mapping specific physical
> >> > address ranges into userland memory with a mmap callback. Everything
> >> works
> >> > together well with a C userland program that calls into our driver's
> >> ioctl
> >> > and mmap definitions, but for our case we are using an alternative
> >> systems
> >> > language just for the userland program.
> >>
> >> So you have userland app written in C, and another not written in C?
> >> The former works well while the latter doesn't, am i right?
> >>
> >
> > Yes, the former works in so much as mmap completes successfully. I've
> > verified that the
> > parameters are identical in the non-C program. The issue of just using the
> > C only program
> > is that the actual implementation of interest is in the non-C program, and
> > that's because
> > that language facilitates other features that are *required* on our end.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > That mmap call is failing (properly
> >> > as we want) out from the driver's mmap implementation due to the fact
> >> that
> >> > the vm_flags have the VM_EXEC flag set. We do not want users to be able
> >> to
> >> > map the memory range as executable, so the driver should check for this
> >> as
> >> > it does. The issue is in the fact that somewhere between where mmap is
> >> > called and when the parameters are given to the driver, the
> >> vma->vm_flags
> >> > are being set to 255. I've manually checked the values being given to
> >> the
> >> > mmap call in our non-C binary, and they are *equivalent* in value to
> >> that
> >> > of the C program.
> >>
> >> By "manually" do you mean strace? Could you show strace output for
> >> both apps? And also could you show readelf -l output for both binaries?
> >>
> >
> > By manually, I mean with a print call just before the mmap call in each of
> > the
> > programs. Right now, I'm working on getting a strace output, but I have to
> > run that in qemu.
> > To be able to run it in qemu in order to isolate the driver and all from
> > my host, I have to build
> > with buildroot. So I'll email that when I get it, but it'll be a while.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > My question is, is there anything that can cause the vma->vm_flags to be
> >> > changed in the trip between when the user land program calls mmap and
> >> when
> >> > control is delivered to the mmap callback?
> >>
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