Re: idle task check

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I mean how can we use the pid in the scenario of finding the process that is not used.

On 4 Jun 2015 16:00, "nick" <xerofoify@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On 2015-06-04 08:52 AM, Mustafa Hussain wrote:
> Ok, everything is clear except one thing what we will do exactly with (pid)
> s?
> On 4 Jun 2015 15:40, "nick" <xerofoify@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
Its used in task struct to create a doubly linked list with init/systemd
being the head or first process and the others linked in other of their
hierarchy.
Nick
>>
>>
>> On 2015-06-04 08:34 AM, Mustafa Hussain wrote:
>>> great, How can I check if this running task is used or not.. I mean by
>> not
>>> used that the task is running but not used by the user
>>>
>>>
>> Here is the issue through in order to find out what tasks the user is
>> running we
>> need to known the exact pid(s) each time. This is next to impossible to do
>> without
>> writing a syscall and that’s a little beyond you if your asking about the
>> scheduler.
>> However, there may be a debugging feature in perf or other tool that does
>> this, you
>> can google to see if something wrote a tool or kernel module for this.
>> Nick
>>> On June 4, 2015 8:22:03 AM EDT, Mustafa Hussain <
>> mustafa.hussain93@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> So I was just thinking about if i did this i can close apps that is
>>>> running
>>>> and user don't use them..
>>>> On 4 Jun 2015 14:59, "Nicholas Krause" <xerofoify@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>> That's not a idle task,  that's a task in the
>>> TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE  or TASK_RUNNING phase.
>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On June 4, 2015 7:56:30 AM EDT, Mustafa Hussain <
>>>>> mustafa.hussain93@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> All i am trying to do is to detect idle task and remove it from the
>>>>>> running
>>>>>> queue or deactivate it.
>>>>> There is no reason  for that.  The idle tasks are only ever scheduled
>>>> when
>>>>> there is no other processes able to
>>>>> run.  So trying to remove them is a
>>>>> bad idea.
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>> Thank you for your patience :)
>>>>>> On 4 Jun 2015 14:51, "Nicholas Krause" <xerofoify@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On June 4, 2015 3:35:25 AM EDT, Mustafa Hussain <
>>>>>>> mustafa.hussain93@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> System crashes,  system can not start
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was not thinking and this schedules the idle thread. What are
>>>> you
>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>> to accomplish through.
>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On June 3, 2015 9:41:52 PM EDT, Mustafa Hussain
>>>>>>>> <mustafa.hussain93@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> i want to dequeue the idle task how can i do this ?
>>>>>>>> Why there is no point.  Clearly your asking questions in order to
>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> scheduler.
>>>>>>>> If your interested in learning it I  can help but,  you need to
>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> what you
>>>>>>>> trying to accomplish first.
>>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Mustafa Hussain
>>>>>>>>> <mustafa.hussain93@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi nick,
>>>>>>>>>> i applied your suggested edit and i got "bad: scheduling from
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> idle
>>>>>>>>>> thread!"
>>>>>>>>>> how can i solve this ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM, nick <xerofoify@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-06-02 06:25 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 23:38:48 +0200, Mustafa Hussain said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /*Check if the pointer pointing to the idle class is
>>>> equal
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> prev's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sched_class*/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if(prev->sched_class == idle)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After this condition you can just:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printk(KERN_INFO "Prev is equal to idle_sched_class,now
>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> idle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sched_class\n");
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully, you didn't take Nick's advice without thinking
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> it....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As I type this, powertop tells me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary: 821.8 wakeups/second,  0.0 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0
>>>> VFS
>>>>>>>>> ops/sec
>>>>>>>>>>> and 18.8% CPU use
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That printk is going to spam your dmesg pretty hard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A better question is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If prev is about to go idle, *what do you want to do*?
>>>> (Hint:
>>>>>>>>> newer
>>>>>>>>>>>> kernels already do a bunch of stuff when a cpu/core goes
>>>> idle,
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably want to make sure you're not working against
>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> here...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't account for rate limiting the debug messages, forgot
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> . :)
>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree his question is not the best but he wanted a
>>>> answer
>>>>>> so I
>>>>>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>>>>>> to just give him a answer that works for his learning.
>>>>>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>> brevity.
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>
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