Hi! On 19:42 Sat 11 Apr , Er Krishna wrote: > Hi All, > > Can somebody help me here to understand following basic scenario about > locking. Sorry if I am wrong in putting my points in correct manner. > > 1. Can we take semaphore (binary semaphore or mutex) if the critical > section data is shared across two different threads/processes which are > running on two different processors simultaneously/parallely ? I know > spin_lock() can handle this scenario, but I was trying to understand can > semaphore also handle this scenario, assuming there is no interrupt and > only process context is there ? I think yes. Pls confirm me on this and if > not then why not ? If any pross and cons are involved pls tell that also. Please do not use semaphores for mutual exclusion. Mutexes ensures that only one "thread" can enter a critical section at the same time. > 2. If the critical section data is shared across process and interrupt ( > consider this scenario on uniprocessor machine and I have not taken > local_irq_save() or any spin_lock_irqsave ) and in the currently executing > process critical section is protected by preempt_disable() and suddenly > an interrupt occurs which also wants to access same critical section data, > so what will happen ? Will in this case Interrupt handler acquire the > critical section data and corrupt the kernel or it will sleep and corrupt > the kernel or it will keep doing busy waiting ? I think interrupt handler > will keep doing busy waiting and machine will stuck, kind of deadlock. Pls > confirm me. The idea behind spinlocks is that the process obtaining the lock cannot be interrupted. An interrupt on the same CPU will be delayed until the critical section is finished. An interrupt on another CPU trying to obtain the same spinlock will busywait. This should not take too long, because the task executing it cannot be preempted ond should not be loo long either. > 3. Does Preemption gets disable ( on local processor ) in case of binary > semaphore or mutex ? I think no. Pls confirm. Semophore: I am not sure, but I think preemption does get disabled. Mutex: Preemption will not get disabled. > Second, Lets say critical > section is shared across process and interrupt and it is locked by > semaphore (binary semaphore or mutex) in process context on uniprocessor > machine. If Interrupt comes then what will happen ? Will it preempt the > process Yes, it will. > and acquire the critical section of data and corrupt it or > interrupt will go into sleep mode and machine can crash/stuck. Pls explain. You cannot acquire a mutex in any context which cannot sleep (this includes interrupts, softirq, tasklets, ...). Use spinlocks instead. -Michi -- programing a layer 3+4 network protocol for mesh networks see http://michaelblizek.twilightparadox.com _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
