i'm well aware of the use of the pseudo tty ports under /dev/pts, but i never understood the value of having a distinct "devpts" filesystem, until today. i was working with an embedded system with a flashed root filesystem that included /dev so, obviously, everything under /dev was also read only. i installed dropbear for an ssh server, but every attempt to ssh to that system failed. after tracing the operation of dropbear, i tracked it down to the fact that dropbear was trying to open a pseudo-port corresponding to the connection and was, of course, failing since all of /dev was read-only. after i mounted /dev/pts (rw), ssh connections started to work. is this why /dev/pts was developed? to work around RO /dev directories? or was there some other reason? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA ======================================================================== -- To unsubscribe from this list: send an email with "unsubscribe kernelnewbies" to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxx Please read the FAQ at http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ