nosing around the clone() flags and i notice the flag CLONE_PARENT, which sets the parent of the new child to the same parent as that of the calling process, but i'm not sure when you'd use such a thing. as i read it, when a process creates a thread, the parent of that new thread is the creating process (which, in this case, becomes the thread group leader, right?). so if that original process creates *all* of the new threads in that group, then all of those new threads will have the same parent pointer and there's no need for the flag CLONE_PARENT. on the other hand, if one of those new threads *itself* creates a new thread but wants that new thread to appear as a normal thread in the thread group, it can use the CLONE_PARENT flag. is that the rationale behind that flag? because i can't think of another one offhand. thanks. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA ======================================================================== -- To unsubscribe from this list: send an email with "unsubscribe kernelnewbies" to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxx Please read the FAQ at http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ