Hi Robert I choose kdb.... interactive debugger, and you don't need second machine. However, if you crash the OS badly, I am sure the kdb will crash too. I am sure you get my point. regards, Mulyadi -- Kernelnewbies: Help each other learn about the Linux kernel. Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/kernelnewbies/ FAQ: http://kernelnewbies.org/faq/