Re: 2.6 vs 2.4 kernel memory management question

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Alexander Burnos wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Sorry if it's not appropriate mail list for this question if it's so,
> please, point me to the correct place to ask.
> 
> I have several linux (debian) servers with java applications each of
> them takes, for examples, 200 mbyte of RAM. I've noticed that on
> machines with 2.4 kernels VIRT and RES memory (accordinly to 'top'
> values) are equal. So top shows me that VIRT == RES == 200 mbyte
> (approximately).
> But! On the servers with 2.6 kernel I have another picture, VIRT memory
> in several times bigger than RES. For example real memory of java
> proccess is 146 mbytes, but virtual - 470 mbytes.
> 
> At the firt look it isn't a problem, but when I have several java
> processes and summary of their virtual memory is more than physical
> memory on the server - operatin system begin swapping although there is
> 30-50% of free memory (2 Gbyte memory on each machine).
> At the end we have machine that fall into hard swapping when big part of
> memory is actually free.
> I've tried to play with "echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness" but it didn't
> give me good results.
> 
> Please, point me to doc where I can read about "physics" of this process
> and where I can make some tunning to avoid this effect of growing
> virtual memory on 2.6 kernels?
> 
> Maybe, it depends on the difference between NPTL and linuxthreads
> realization?
> 
> Thank you for your answers!
> 

Using a 2.6 kernel you might try playing around with the vmalloc=xxxM boot param.

Using a 2.4 kernel the less real memory you have the more vm you seem to get.
There is also a define somewhere in the 2.4 kernel that can be increased before
compilation but I hear there are problems with grub if you do. Can't think of
the name right now.

Mark

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