Well this probably was already discussed. Some distros have automatic bug reporting tools that are triggered when something bad happens (don't know if includes kernel stuff). But have anybody thought about some kind of bug report tool that, under an Oops or a NULL point dereference, it creates for example a packed file with the config used to build the kernel, the kernel version, loaded modules, some hardware info, backtraces, everything that could be useful for debugging, and sends to a server to be catalogued ? I know for sure that a lot of people don't use to send bug reports, either because they are in a hurry and forget, or because they just don't know how or that it even exists. We could have something that, under certain bad events, sends that info to a userspace program and lets it handle that bug report problem automatically (here distros can be creative). I'm not sure about including this on distro's kernels, since they already use some kind of bug report mechanism, and usually distro kernels are very different from the vanilla one, which could make it harder to debug the problem. So, distros should ship their kernels with this thing disabled (or enabled, but having the handler on userspace pointing to them, and not for us). Wouldn't that be helpful ? Daniel -- What this world needs is a good five-dollar plasma weapon. -- Kernelnewbies: Help each other learn about the Linux kernel. Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/kernelnewbies/ FAQ: http://kernelnewbies.org/faq/