hi all, i'm getting the message: % gcc -c -O3 -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE grumpy.c -nostdinc -I/usr/src/linux/include In file included from grumpy.c:5: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel.h:10: stdarg.h: No such file or directory sure enough, in /usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel.h there's: #include <stdarg.h> which is funny, because stdarg.h isn't in the kernel sources; it's on my system because libc6-dev put it there. 1. i was under the impression that we did NOT compile against libc headers for modules. 2. what am i supposed to do? certainly blowing away /usr/include/linux and replacing it with /usr/src/linux/include/linux would fix my problem, but that's kind of a radical solution. certainly there's a better answer than to start deleting files owned by dpkg? shanks, pete -- "You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ..." -- Clause from license for FrontPage 2002 -- Kernelnewbies: Help each other learn about the Linux kernel. Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/kernelnewbies/ IRC Channel: irc.openprojects.net / #kernelnewbies Web Page: http://www.kernelnewbies.org/