On Sunday 2013-01-06 04:50, Born Without wrote: >>> As I was missing those features in the ipset set listing capabilities: >>> >>> - show sum of set members >>> - suppress listing of headers >>> - choose a delimiter character for separating member entries >>> >>> I wrote a little wrapper script (for the bash shell) to support them. >>> For those who like, you'll find it attached. >> >> There's libipset, with which this task should be achievable to the >> maximum customizable degree without involving ugly text parsing with sh. > > Hello Jan, > > good you mention libipset, because not even the man page does, nor does any > documentation or similar exist. I have taken Joszef into Cc.. > Interesting, that you belittle text parsing, it's such a common task in linux. > And thank you for telling us, that C has more power that sh. Really great > insight! "Common" does not mean "the right thing", especially if the output is prone to change - and by definition, everything that has not been declared as giving a stable output can easily change at inconvenient times, depending on moon phase and locale settings. Stable output does not necessarily mean a C API. Tools default to output human-readable prose, and may require specific options to put them into machine-parseable mode. Compare: `date` vs. `date -d +"%F %T"` (parseable). -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html