good your tips Gáspár, I would ask myself: Do I really need redundancy or do I need alternativity? yes, I need redundancy. when an line adsl come down all traffic go to other line adsl. I couldn't have done this on linux machine. if you has any how to about please post here. thanks. Em 4 de janeiro de 2012 16:00, Gáspár Lajos <swifty@xxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > Hi Lloyd, > > Thank you for your comment ! :D > I have never used this monitor, but I am going to try it... :D > > 2012-01-04 15:08 keltezéssel, Lloyd Standish írta: > >> I'm sure your iface match is very useful in many circumstances. However I >> would like to point out that link status monitor (http://lsm.foobar.fi/) >> actually evaluates the link quality by pinging an IP (perhaps several hops >> past the gateway IP), keeping track of the number of lost and late-arriving >> packets over the last 60 seconds. If the number of late or dropped packets >> exceeds a certain (configurable) number, then the link is reported as >> "down". The main advantage to this (and the fact that it happens outside of >> netfilter) is that the firewall can be automatically reconfigured to exclude >> the failed link from routing. When the link quality is seen to have >> improved, the failed link can be included again in the routing decision. > > > I think that both of these approaches has pros and cons. > > Maybe you also know that (in Linux) the kernel chooses the output interface > depending on the routing table and not the source IP... > So if the ping is not bound to a specific interface then it is "useless"... > (There is an oping utility that can be set up to use a specific interface.) > I do not know LSM but I hope that it is also aware of this. > > Besides this, pinging is not always accurate and may lead the application > think that link quality is dropping down... > Just imagine that the pinged host(s) can be under a DOS attack and the reply > times can go high... > (Not to mention that the pinging generates traffic and that requires > resources. Probably not too much resources at all :D) > > Other question is that how often/rarely do you ping? If often then it is too > much traffic. If rarely then do you REALLY KNOW that the interface was all > the time up? > > To repeat myself: I do not know LSM :D > > It seems to me that LSM is some kind of line quality checking software... > > OTOH my match checks the interface state when the packet is in the queue... > With that info you can mark the packets and let the kernel decide about the > routing depending on the mark.. > > But my match does not know anything about the "quality" of the connection > just about the state of the interface... > > Returning to the main question: > If an interface goes down then the associated connections will most likely > break down... > Without knowing the required "high-availability" services, for example you > can use "fallback_relay" in postfix; multiple remote lines in openvpn, etc. > etc. etc. > So maybe the redundancy is not the right word for the main requirement... > I would ask myself: Do I really need redundancy or do I need alternativity? > > > Swifty -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html