Yes. Tbf is classless... Least on my assorted boxes. (wide range of kernels and cant think of one with classful tbf). Sorry for top post using mobile phone and too awkward to edit... --- Original Message --- From: Paul Jack <aunty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 09:17:54 Localtime To: netfilter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: is tbf really classless ? hi all i am completely new to this so am probably missing something terribly obvious. I have found in "A Practical Guide to Linux Traffic Control" by Jason Boxman . . "As of Linux 2.6.1, tbf is now a classful qdisc. By default it will behave as it did in prior versions of Linux. The classful variant automatically creates a class with a minor node of 1. The major node number will be what you assigned to the tbf qdisc. You can attach both classless and classful qdiscs to the new tbf in 2.6.1 and later." and also in the comments within net/sched/sch_tbf.c . . * Authors: Alexey Kuznetsov, <kuznet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> * Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@xxxxxxx> - allow attaching inner qdiscs - * original idea by Martin Devera and . . With classful TBF, limit is just kept for backwards compatibility. It is passed to the default bfifo qdisc - if the inner qdisc is changed the limit is not effective anymore. everywhere else i have looked only talks of tbf as a classless qdisc - even the man page. I have run: root@vanessa:~# tc qdisc add dev wlan0 root handle 1:0 tbf rate 100mbit burst 10kb limit 1kb and when i try to add a class to this root qdisc i get: root@vanessa:~# tc class add dev wlan0 parent 1:0 classid 1:1 tbf rate 24kbit burst 1kbit limit 1 Error: Qdisc "tbf" is classless. was tbf's classfullnes only temporary ? is there something wrong with my kernel ? i am running kernel 2.6.29.6-smp on slackware 13.0 all help greatly appreciated, aunty -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ��.n��������+%������w��{.n����z���)��jg��������ݢj����G�������j:+v���w�m������w�������h�����٥