Hi there, I've seen this problem has been announced on this list at least once, but I did not find the answer in the archive. I'd have checked the bugzilla, but the bugzilla throws errors like DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'grant_type' in 'where clause' [for Statement "SELECT groups.name,... when trying to log in. anyway: I'm searching for hints: Setup: Server behind Firewall, Server has private IP. Firewall running Kernel 2.6.19 (gentoo-r6), iptables-1.3.5 Server does FTP traffic to external FTP Server (download). after some time I can trace (firewall, external interface) things like this: Server IP external (after NAT) : a.b.c.d, Server IP internal (before NAT): 192.168.1.161 External Server: w.x.y.z 4.107198 a.b.c.d -> w.x.y.z FTP Request: PORT a,b,c,d,179,87 4.330290 a.b.c.d -> w.x.y.z FTP [TCP Retransmission] Request: PORT 192,168,1,161,179,87 so, if the answer of the external host takes too long, the internal hosts issues an TCP Retransmission and (I guess) the conntrack_ftp does not SNAT the PORT command a second time, as it should. After switching from outgoing active to outgoing passive FTP, it is working again, but this is only a workaround for outgoing traffic, as long as the remote server does not run the same configuration (linux/nat/netfilter/iptables). I can observe the same problem with incoming FTP traffic as well. everytime the Server issues an PORT command (this time it is incoming passive ftp), the same thing happens: everytime the remote host does not answer a PORT request fast enough, there will be a TCP retransmission. And in that retransmission the PORT request there is no second NAT and the private IP is shown in the port Of course there would be other workarounds for this: A) - using stateless rules for port 21 and a portrange for the data connectinos - configuring the ftp server to "masquerade as" external ip - configuring the ftp server to use only the portrange mentioned above. B) - dont use nat at all, use external IPs in the DMZ. just let the firewall do routing and not masquerading. But these are only workarounds. Any hints or pointers? best regards Werner Maier -- Werner Maier, Dipl.-Ing. Univ. Friedrich-Bergius-Ring 15 fidion GmbH 97076 Würzburg