Hello Will someonekindly update me on whether julians's patch is now a standard feature on the linux kernel release? Is there a decision to provide the same feature but re-worked in some way (i.e out-of the-box dead gateway detection for example) in a future release. Or do I still need to patch the latest kernel release, and do all the "stuff" as explained in the iproute2 lartc how-to or nano how-to or dgd usage doc? -- Nonchalantly yours GobbledeGeek [Every thing but Gobbledegook.. !!]