Hello list, I hope this is the right list, as my problem appears to be about both iptables and (native (as in: managed with setkey)) IPSec. Short version: packets from ipsec tunnel seem to get lost before they enter the the FORWARD chain with kernel 2.6.11. There is no problem with 2.6.8-2-k6 (Debian kernel with 26sec) and there is no problem with ipsec turned off. Long version: Two networks: 192.168.2.0/24 wired home network 192.168.3.0/30 wireless network Three hosts cube, router/firewall: eth1 192.168.2.2 wlan0 192.168.3.1 eth0 82.157.. eniac, workstation: eth0 192.168.2.1 toppie, laptop: wlan0 192.168.3.2 On 192.168.3.0/30 ipsec is used, relevant excerpt: ipsec.conf (cube): spdflush; spdadd 192.168.3.0/30 0.0.0.0/0 any -P in ipsec esp/tunnel/192.168.3.2-192.168.3.1/require; spdadd 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.3.0/30 any -P out ipsec esp/tunnel/192.168.3.1-192.168.3.2/require; the firewall on cube is configured as follows (only for testing, the usual config is more complicated but it exhibits the same problem). all the policies are 'ACCEPT' and traffic from eth0 is DROPped at INPUT (and forwarding is enabled at /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward). cube and toppie can ping eachother, cube and eniac also. But eniac and toppie can't ping eachother. For example: eniac pings toppie: (REQ=echo request, RPL=echo reply and ESP=encryped packet) the log is aquired on cube by prepending a LOG target to all chains using a script much alike http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/scripts/rc.test-iptables.txt and by removing information that I think isn't important, to make it fit on 80 cols Eniac sends an echo-request. REQ mangle PRE_R:IN=eth1 OUT= SRC=192.168.2.1 DST=192.168.3.2 LEN=84 REQ nat PRE_R:IN=eth1 OUT= SRC=192.168.2.1 DST=192.168.3.2 LEN=84 REQ mangle FWD:IN=eth1 OUT=wlan0 SRC=192.168.2.1 DST=192.168.3.2 LEN=84 REQ filter FWD:IN=eth1 OUT=wlan0 SRC=192.168.2.1 DST=192.168.3.2 LEN=84 >From here on the packet gets encrypted. ESP mangle POST_R:IN= OUT=wlan0 SRC=192.168.3.1 DST=192.168.3.2 LEN=152 ESP nat POST_R:IN= OUT=wlan0 SRC=192.168.3.1 DST=192.168.3.2 LEN=152 It leaves cube and toppie sends a reply. ESP mangle PRE_R:IN=wlan0 OUT= SRC=192.168.3.2 DST=192.168.3.1 LEN=152 ESP mangle INPUT:IN=wlan0 OUT= SRC=192.168.3.2 DST=192.168.3.1 LEN=152 ESP filter INPUT:IN=wlan0 OUT= SRC=192.168.3.2 DST=192.168.3.1 LEN=152 The packet gets decrypted. RPL mangle PRERT:IN=wlan0 OUT= SRC=192.168.3.2 DST=192.168.2.1 LEN=84 After this the echo reply from toppie does not appear in the log; the packet does not enter the INPUT chain and it also does not enter the (expected) FORWARD chain. This happens with linux-2.6.11 (vanilla). The ping works if IPSec is turned off (i.e. setkey -F -P on cube and toppie). And it also works in 2.4.27-2-k6 (a Debian kernel (which has 26sec patched in)). So, is it a bug, feature, or just misconfiguration? Can you reproduce? I would appreciate any insight on this problem. Thanks. Greetings, Rik.