I was thinking on a set-up involving Filtering, Traffic Shaping and Tunnels. This trough up a couple of questions that I hope someone can give a definitive answer to. If some or all of my traffic is tunnelled I see a potential problem when trying to shape traffic leaving the network. As far as I can see with ESP packets Route2 filters can only differentiate on the destination IP as they can not see the encrypted traffic. I have seen a reference to the 2.6 kernels IPsec implementation that implying that if you use a netfilter rule to set a mark on the incoming packets before they enter the tunnel, that the mark is replicated to the ESP Packets created. Is this correct? If so it would allow shaping providing the shaping is done on the same box as the tunnelling. Does the TOS field also get replicated? This would allow for TOS based traffic shaping on a downstream box. Are the tos field or Marks replicated to the ESP packets for freeswan/openswan and the 2.4 Kernel. Are the IP headers TOS value, or netfilter Marks replicated to the new packet for the other tunnel protocols, IPIP, GRE, and so on. while on the subject of MARKs and TOS values. Is there any way of setting a MARK or the TOS on ftp data connections that match as related using the ip_conntrack_ftp module? Without setting the same mark on packets relating to other connections? -- J. David Rye http://www.roadrunner.uk.com http://www.rha.org.uk mailto://hostman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx