hi again My second question of the day is pls first check these few rules from our firewall scirpt iptables -A INPUT -p TCP -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --dport 135:140 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -p UDP -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --dport 135:140 -j DROP iptables -A FORWARD -p TCP -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --dport 135:140 -j DROP iptables -A FORWARD -p UDP -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --dport 135:140 -j DROP iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p TCP -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --dport 135:140 -j DROP iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p UDP -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --dport 135:140 -j DROP aren't there are unnecessary repitions ? port that is Dropped in FOWARD chain is again Dropped in PREROUTING chain, and also why he (my predecssor) droping such port in INPUT table ? aren't it unnecessary, coz it a linux box no port 135:140 are open on our fw machine. Today I just deletes are PREROUTING rules and now im getting counts for packets drops on FOWARD table. regards askar -- (after bouncing head on desk for days trying to get mine working, I'll make yer life a little easier)