i think cisco's 'show interface' commands are a model of what s/be displayed. these displays delinate between the functionality of the physical interface and the protocol that should operating on them. ~piranha@usaf -----Original Message----- From: netfilter-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:netfilter-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Antony Stone Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:01 AM To: netfilter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: off topic - hope somebody can help On Friday 11 June 2004 12:42 pm, Gavin Hamill wrote: > On Friday 11 June 2004 12:29, Antony Stone wrote: > > Why shouldn't it? The interface is still fully functioning even if you > > choose to disconnect it - I think plenty of people would get upset if the > > interface went down on its own just because the cable got unplugged (or > > the hub had a short power failure)... > > This is definately one of the biggest no-brain decisions Microsoft made > with Windows 2000 - as soon as the link on an Ethernet adapter disappears, > all open TCP sessions from the workstation are immediately reset. > > Multiply that by power-cycling a 48-port switch, and you have a headache :/ Sheesh - I did not know that - I wrote what I did above on the basis that this would be such a stupid and inconvenient thing to do that of course nobody would implement it as a standard "feature". Glad to know that no matter how hard I try, Microsoft still manages to exceed my expectations of their inept design concepts. Antony. -- I think, therefore I am. I'm pink, therefore I'm Spam. I drink, therefore I think I am. Please reply to the list; please don't CC me.