> Where I've used webmin in the past, I've changed the port that > it listens on, and filtered access to that port to a specific list of ips. > Given some configuration, it can be relatively secure. > Question -- you don't want to do X11 forwarded sessions because? .. > at a guess the users want to be able to see the rules from a winders > box downstream from the firewall? -- at that point I can ses why .. > webmin is a bit of overkill for this, but is granular enough that you > can let your clients review the firewall rules and not allow them to > muck with them too much. > > There is a java project you might look at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jwall > but I've never used it -- I do know one person who has and finds it useful, > how useful it would be for you I don't know. > > Alistair > Yeah, yur right cause users want to see the rules and logs in a windows enviroment, i also offered the Cygwin installation for ssh-X tunneling but oofff they are the bosses man they love IE!!. its easy for logs with php#mysql and using log analyzer and get custom reports but when it comes to rules im really scared. Also i tried JWall but it seems still pre-mature as i tested some rule genarating operations and it unfortunely produces wrong scripts for iptables (will contack the developer for this,) but i admire that jwall as it aims to be able to manage remotely IDS and firewall in a secure GUI env. cool for ones like me who tries to satisfy the unsatisfied MS users and also can scripting to check that gui outputs. Emre. -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.mail.com