RE: mangle + TCP Flags

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Now that is a truly interesting question, if a bit off-topic.  What is the best way to handle recon?  Is it best to comply and hope your network looks un-interesting?  Is it best to try and make scanning as costly as possible (aka Tarpitting)?  Is it best to make everything appear open, thereby polluting the results of the scans?

Personally, I go for a mix of the latter two.  I'd like to make recon take absolutely forever AND return false information.  Particularly randomly false information - to make the prospect of rescanning unpalatable.

One down side is, I wind up making my network more 'interesting' than my neighbors.  I'm not quite sure if it is worth the extra interest...


Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: netfilter-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:netfilter-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:44 AM
To: netfilter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: mangle + TCP Flags


On Thursday 11 December 2003 3:32 pm, Jean-Marie Orset wrote:

> > Well, you could just:
> > -p tcp -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset (uses tcp rst)
> > -p udp -j REJECT (uses icmp port-unreach)
> >That makes nmap say: ports closed.
>
> Yes, that's what I should do but My idea was to answer false SYN,ACK
> even if the ports are closed. In that way a scan would declare all my ports
> open but in reality, they would be closed.

Why is that better for security?

Antony.

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