We are developing a GUI manager for iptables and FreeS/WAN for large complex deployments. It is similar to the global management consoles from Smartpipes, Solsoft, NetScreen, Checkpoint, etc., except that it creates more efficient rules, is significantly easier to manage, is GPL rather than a five to six figure product, but does not yet support additional services such as IDS and Content Filtering. ( http://iscs.sourceforge.net) Actually it is vendor independent and thus can manage more than iptables but iptables is our initial target. We've hit a major problem with the maximum chain name length. We organize our user communities and resource groups into a hierarchical structure with inheritance. These map directly to the iptables chain names. Thus a chain name like AppliedTechnologies/Engineering/NewProducts/SanFranciscoLabs/ProjectB is not out of the ordinary. This runs us up against the 30 character limit of chain names very quickly. Working around this by substituting numbers for names or some other such workaround will greatly complicate the project and reduce ease of troubleshooting in the field. Is there any way to extend the maximum allowed chain name length in iptables? Thanks - John -- John A. Sullivan III Chief Technology Officer Nexus Management +1 207-985-7880 john.sullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx