Antony - my thanks to you. I rather suspected your answer would be true. My problem is that I am getting very large differences in the usage I track using iptables and the usage that my ISP reports. iptables reports much more traffic - up to 12% in fact. I have checked with the ISP who say they too only count layer 3 IP. Another question, then? In my system, ip_forward=1 and I have masquerading to allow a 192.168. subnet to access the net. I then have rules like iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -d 192.168.x.y -j ACCEPT where eth0 is the default gateway and eth1 is the LAN. I have tested to ensure that even if a user on the 192.168. network calls a resource listening on the public eth0 ip address that that usage doesn't show up - why should it, after all - the traffic is not going in to eth0! So that all works as expected. Just to be sure in terms of working out why I have such a large discrepancy with my ISP, is there a way that the MASQ rule could be having some sort of unwanted effect when examining the counters in the FORWARD rule? My thought is not. Marc On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 23:01, netfilter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Send netfilter mailing list submissions to > netfilter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.netfilter.org/mailman/listinfo/netfilter > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > netfilter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > netfilter-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of netfilter digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ethernet headers and iptables counters (Marc Lucke) > 2. Re: ethernet headers and iptables counters (Antony Stone) > 3. mail server problem (Roberto Rossi) > 4. Re: mail server problem (Antony Stone) > 5. Re: mail server problem (netfilter@xxxxxxxxx) > 6. Re: mail server problem (Antony Stone) > 7. open port to specific ip address (Lohan Spies) > 8. Re: open port to specific ip address (Antony Stone) > 9. IP6TABLES and Muulticast Listener ICMPV6 PDUs (Christian Riechmann) > 10. RE: open port to specific ip address (Lohan Spies) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Subject: ethernet headers and iptables counters > From: Marc Lucke <marc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: netfilter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Organization: > Date: 10 Nov 2003 20:14:39 +1100 > > > --=-VAWwww8EbLkqCmm//b/s > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi, > > Do the iptables counters include layer 2 ethernet packet headers? If > so, how much traffic is this - is it a set amount? > > Horst.Hansen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sat Mar 08 12:29:13 2003 asked the question > that I was interested in - nobody seemed to answer him. > > My apologies if this is an RTFA question. > > > good wishes to all, > Marc > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: Antony Stone <Antony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Organization: Software Solutions > To: netfilter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: ethernet headers and iptables counters > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:40:40 +0000 > > On Monday 10 November 2003 9:14 am, Marc Lucke wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Do the iptables counters include layer 2 ethernet packet headers? If > > so, how much traffic is this - is it a set amount? > > No, because you may not be using ethernet. > > Netfilter can be used for packets across ethernet, 802.11, PPP modems - all > sorts of network transports. > > Packet and byte counters in netfilter are IP (OSI layer 3) and upwards. > > You can check this easily by creating a rule matching something specific (eg > ping packets), send a known amount of traffic through the box (or measure it > with a packet sniffer / protocol analyser such as ethereal, which will give > you a detailed view of the contents of the packets), and then check what the > counters say. > > Antony > > -- > > Anything that improbable is effectively impossible. > > - Murray Gell-Mann, Nobel Prizewinner in Physics > Please reply to the list; > please don't CC me. > >