On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Miguel Laborde wrote: > the DMZ such as web/ftp/etc. What I currently do is DNAT in the > PREROUTING chain to my DMZ addresses for these machines, and then in the > POSTROUTING chain i -J SNAT to my main firewall IP. This is where the > question arises. --snip-- > So everything that goes out through my firewall is source nat'd to the > firewall's IP. This is where I'm confused.. mostly by the fact that this > kind of setup appears to work while I think it shouldn't. If a client > sends a SYN packet with the destination IP of EXT_IP_WEB and then gets a > ACK packet back with the source IP set to EXT_IP_FW won't it wonder what > the heck is going on and just ignore it?! No, because the internal webserver acks to the external (?) firewall, which de-SNATs it (so the ack's destination is now the client) and then de-DNATs it (so the ack's source is the external web address), so the client thinks there is a real machine at the external web address which is talking to it. If the objective is to ensure that the internal webserver sends responses to the firewall and not some strange alternative route that doesn't know to undo the DNAT transformation, I think it would be safer to SNAT to the firewall's internal (DMZ) address, which is what the webserver is supposed to send the packet to anyway, as a gateway to the external firewall address. But if the only way to the Internet (at least, the only way known to the webserver) is through that one firewall, I think most people don't bother with the SNAT step. On the other hand, traffic *originating* on the internal net, which presumably is not routeable, needs SNAT as it goes out the external firewall interface, so replies from the wide world will return to the firewall. Or is this actually what you're doing -- did I misunderstand your rules? When an outside client originates the connection, subsequent packets will not get SNAT treatment in the outgoing direction -- only originating (SYN and not RST) packets lead to creation of a SNAT conntrack, in this scenario. James F. Carter Voice 310 825 2897 FAX 310 206 6673 UCLA-Mathnet; 6115 MSA; 405 Hilgard Ave.; Los Angeles, CA, USA 90095-1555 Email: jimc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc (q.v. for PGP key)