Is there any way to get more info, using iptables or the kernel about the martians? Can someone clarify the difference between source and from in the log message? kernel - kernel generated messages matched ll header: 00:50:bf:70:68:98:00:e0:d0:01:06:ec:08:00 kernel generated messages matched martian source x.x.x.1 from 127.0.0.1, on dev eth1 kernel - kernel generated messages matched ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:e0:d0:01:06:ec:08:00 kernel - kernel generated messages matched martian source x.x.x.0 from 127.0.0.1, on dev eth1 -- Arno Karner aka Behind the Muffs West 7th St., St. Paul aka smell, Minn http://tnss.com/noise_stink