Hii, So there is really no way stopping them with iptables? Hmmm the weird thing is i have McAfee (FULLY UPDATED) running on my windows machine and did a system scan last night and it didnt even pick it up. I might install AVG tonight and try it picks anything up! Thanks... Tasha@xx<----- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com