After fighting with pptp, I've decided to change my vpn instead of firewall. Thus my question is which type of firewall is most suited. I imagine it will be some type of IPSEC. The criterior is 1.)I can update the routing table on my NT server to route through the table as in wins (dns maybe), PDC<->BDC all netbios protocols. I am more interesting in hearing from people with working configurations. Rowan Reid Job Captain, Systems Administrator STUDIO 3 ARCHITECTS 909 982 1717