Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2023 at 11:08:16PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote: > > Element E1, times out in 1 hour > > Element E2, times out in 1 second > > Element E3, timed out (1 second ago, 3 minutes ago, doesn't matter). > > > > Userspace batch to kernel: > > Update Element E1 to time out in 2 hours. > > Update Element E2 to time out in 1 hour. > > Update Element E3 to time out in 1 hour. > > > > What is the expected outcome of this request? > > > > Ignore E3 being reaped already and refresh the timeout (resurrection?) > > No resurrection, the element might have counters, it already expired. OK. > > Ignore E3 being reaped already and ignore the request? > > Fail the transaction as E3 timed out already ("does not exist")? > > Add a new E3. If NLM_F_EXCL is specified, then fail with "does not exist" OK. > > Now, what about E2? If transaction is large, it could become > > like E3 *during the transaction* unless we introduce some freezing > > mechanism. Whats the expected outcome? > > > > Whats the expected outcome if there is some other, unrelated > > failure? I assume we have to roll back all the timeout updates, right? > > We annotate the new timeout in transaction object, then refresh the > timeout update in the commit phase. OK, so as per "E3-example", you're saying that if E2 expires during the transaction, then if F_EXCL is given the transaction will fail while otherwise it will be re-added. > > If so, why not temporarily make the timeouts effective right away > > and then roll back? > > You mean, from the preparation phase? Then we need to undo what has > been done, in case of --check / abort path is exercised, this might > just create a bogus element listing. True. Am I correct that we can't implement the "expand" via del+add because of stateful objects? I fear we will need to circle back to rbtree then, I'll followup there (wrt. on-demand gc). > No need for rollback if new timeout is store in the transaction > object, we just set the new timeout from _commit() step in the > NEWSETELEM case, which has to deal with updates. Other objects follow > a similar approach. Got it.