On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 12:09:35PM +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote: > Hi Phil, > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 11:34:43AM +0200, Phil Sutter wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 09:53:17PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote: > > > Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 06:18:13PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote: > > > > > callback_that_might_reset() > > > > > { > > > > > try_module_get ... > > > > > rcu_read_unlock() > > > > > mutex_lock(net->commit_mutex) > > > > > dumper(); > > > > > mutex_unlock(net->commit_mutex) > > > > > rcu_read_lock(); > > > > > module_put() > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > should do the trick. > > > > > > > > Idiom above LGTM, *except for net->commit_mutex*. Please do not use > > > > ->commit_mutex: This will stall ruleset updates for no reason, netlink > > > > dump would grab and release such mutex for each netlink_recvmsg() call > > > > and netlink dump side will always retry because of NLM_F_EINTR. > > > > > > It will stall updates, but for good reason: we are making changes to the > > > expressions state. > > > > This also disqualifies the use of Pablo's suggested reset_lock, right? > > Quick summary: > > We are currently discussing if it makes sense to add a new lock or > not. The commit_mutex stalls updates, but netlink dumps retrieves > listings in chunks, that is, one recvmsg() call from userspace (to > retrieve one list chunk) will grab the mutex then release it until the > next recvmsg() call is done. Between these two calls an update is > still possible. The question is if it is worth to stall an ongoing > listing or updates. Thanks for the summary. Assuming that a blocked commit will only be postponed until after the current chunk was filled and is being submitted to user space, I don't see how it would make a practical difference for reset command if commit_mutex is used instead of reset_lock (or a dedicated reset_mutex). > There is the NLM_F_EINTR mechanism in place that tells that an > interference has occured while keeping the listing lockless. > > Unless I am missing anything, the goal is to fix two different > processes that are listing at the same time, that is, two processes > running a netlink dump at the same time that are resetting the > stateful expressions in the ruleset. Here's a simple repro I use to verify the locking approach (only rule reset for now): | set -e | | RULESET='flush ruleset | table t { | chain c { | counter packets 23 bytes 42 | } | }' | | trap "$NFT list ruleset" EXIT | for ((i = 0; i < 10000; i++)); do | echo "iter $i" | $NFT -f - <<< "$RULESET" | $NFT list ruleset | grep -q 'packets 23 bytes 42' >/dev/null | $NFT reset rules >/dev/null & | pid=$! | $NFT reset rules >/dev/null | wait $! | #$NFT list ruleset | grep 'packets' | $NFT list ruleset | grep -q 'packets 0 bytes 0' >/dev/null | done If the two calls clash, the rule will have huge counter values due to underflow.