On 04.05.22 21:37, U'ren, Aaron wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Jozsef.
>
> It’s good to have the confirmation about why iptables list/save perform so many getsockopt() calls.
>
> In terms of providing more information to locate the source of the slowdown, do you have any recommendations on what information would be helpful?
>
> The only thing that I was able to think of was doing a git bisect on it, but that’s a pretty large range, and the problem isn’t always 100% reproducible. It seems like something about the state of the system needs to trigger the issue. So that approach seemed non-optimal.
>
> I’m reasonably certain that if we took enough of our machines back to 5.15.16 we could get some of them to evidence the problem again. If we reproduced the problem, what types of diagnostics or debug could we give you to help further track down this issue?
>
> Thanks for your time and help!
Jozsef, I still have this issue on my list of tracked regressions and it
looks like nothing happens since above mail (or did I miss it?). Could
you maybe provide some guidance to Aaron to get us all closer to the
root of the problem?
Ciao, Thorsten (wearing his 'the Linux kernel's regression tracker' hat)
P.S.: As the Linux kernel's regression tracker I deal with a lot of
reports and sometimes miss something important when writing mails like
this. If that's the case here, don't hesitate to tell me in a public
reply, it's in everyone's interest to set the public record straight.
> From: Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:15 AM
> To: McLean, Patrick <Patrick.Mclean@xxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, netfilter-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <netfilter-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, U'ren, Aaron <Aaron.U'ren@xxxxxxxx>, Brown, Russell <Russell.Brown@xxxxxxxx>, Rueger, Manuel <manuel.rueger@xxxxxxxx>, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Florian Westphal <fw@xxxxxxxxx>, netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Intermittent performance regression related to ipset between 5.10 and 5.15
> Hi, this is your Linux kernel regression tracker. Top-posting for once,
> to make this easily accessible to everyone.
>
> Patrick, did you see the comment from Jozsef? Are you having trouble
> providing additional data or what's the status here from your side? Or
> is that something we can forget?
>
> Ciao, Thorsten
>
> #regzbot poke
>
> On 11.04.22 13:47, Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>
>>> On 16.03.22 10:17, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>>> [TLDR: I'm adding the regression report below to regzbot, the Linux
>>>> kernel regression tracking bot; all text you find below is compiled from
>>>> a few templates paragraphs you might have encountered already already
>>>> from similar mails.]
>>>>
>>>> On 16.03.22 00:15, McLean, Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>>>> When we upgraded from the 5.10 (5.10.61) series to the 5.15 (5.15.16)
>>>>> series, we encountered an intermittent performance regression that
>>>>> appears to be related to iptables / ipset. This regression was
>>>>> noticed on Kubernetes hosts that run kube-router and experience a
>>>>> high amount of churn to both iptables and ipsets. Specifically, when
>>>>> we run the nftables (iptables-1.8.7 / nftables-1.0.0) iptables
>>>>> wrapper xtables-nft-multi on the 5.15 series kernel, we end up
>>>>> getting extremely laggy response times when iptables attempts to
>>>>> lookup information on the ipsets that are used in the iptables
>>>>> definition. This issue isn’t reproducible on all hosts. However, our
>>>>> experience has been that across a fleet of ~50 hosts we experienced
>>>>> this issue on ~40% of the hosts. When the problem evidences, the time
>>>>> that it takes to run unrestricted iptables list commands like
>>>>> iptables -L or iptables-save gradually increases over the course of
>>>>> about 1 - 2 hours. Growing from less than a second to run, to takin
>>> g sometimes over 2 minutes to run. After that 2 hour mark it seems to
>>> plateau and not grow any longer. Flushing tables or ipsets doesn’t seem
>>> to have any affect on the issue. However, rebooting the host does reset
>>> the issue. Occasionally, a machine that was evidencing the problem may
>>> no longer evidence it after being rebooted.
>>>>>
>>>>> We did try to debug this to find a root cause, but ultimately ran
>>>>> short on time. We were not able to perform a set of bisects to
>>>>> hopefully narrow down the issue as the problem isn’t consistently
>>>>> reproducible. We were able to get some straces where it appears that
>>>>> most of the time is spent on getsockopt() operations. It appears that
>>>>> during iptables operations, it attempts to do some work to resolve
>>>>> the ipsets that are linked to the iptables definitions (perhaps
>>>>> getting the names of the ipsets themselves?). Slowly that getsockopt
>>>>> request takes more and more time on affected hosts. Here is an
>>>>> example strace of the operation in question:
>>
>> Yes, iptables list/save have to get the names of the referenced sets and
>> that is performed via getsockopt() calls.
>>
>> I went through all of the ipset related patches between 5.10.6 (copy&paste
>> error but just the range is larger) and 5.15.16 and as far as I see none
>> of them can be responsible for the regression. More data is required to
>> locate the source of the slowdown.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jozsef
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 0.000074 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/nsswitch.conf", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=539, ...}, 0) = 0 <0.000017>
>>>>> 0.000064 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/var/db/protocols.db", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) <0.000017>
>>>>> 0.000057 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/protocols", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 4 <0.000013>
>>>>> 0.000034 newfstatat(4, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=6108, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 <0.000009>
>>>>> 0.000032 lseek(4, 0, SEEK_SET) = 0 <0.000008>
>>>>> 0.000025 read(4, "# /etc/protocols\n#\n# Internet (I"..., 4096) = 4096 <0.000010>
>>>>> 0.000036 close(4) = 0 <0.000008>
>>>>> 0.000028 write(1, "ANGME7BF25 - [0:0]\n:KUBE-POD-FW-"..., 4096) = 4096 <0.000028>
>>>>> 0.000049 socket(AF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_RAW) = 4 <0.000015>
>>>>> 0.000032 fcntl(4, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 <0.000008>
>>>>> 0.000024 getsockopt(4, SOL_IP, 0x53 /* IP_??? */, "\0\1\0\0\7\0\0\0", [8]) = 0 <0.000024>
>>>>> 0.000046 getsockopt(4, SOL_IP, 0x53 /* IP_??? */, "\7\0\0\0\7\0\0\0KUBE-DST-VBH27M7NWLDOZIE"..., [40]) = 0 <0.109384>
>>>>> 0.109456 close(4) = 0 <0.000022>
>>>>>
>>>>> On a host that is not evidencing the performance regression we
>>>>> normally see that operation take ~ 0.00001 as opposed to
>>>>> 0.109384.Additionally, hosts that were evidencing the problem we also
>>>>> saw high lock times with `klockstat` (unfortunately at the time we
>>>>> did not know about or run echo "0" > /proc/sys/kernel/kptr_restrict
>>>>> to get the callers of the below commands).
>>>>>
>>>>> klockstat -i 5 -n 10 (on a host experiencing the problem)
>>>>> Caller Avg Hold Count Max hold Total hold
>>>>> b'[unknown]' 118490772 83 179899470 9834734132
>>>>> b'[unknown]' 118416941 83 179850047 9828606138
>>>>> # or somewhere later while iptables -vnL was running:
>>>>> Caller Avg Hold Count Max hold Total hold
>>>>> b'[unknown]' 496466236 46 17919955720 22837446860
>>>>> b'[unknown]' 496391064 46 17919893843 22833988950
>>>>>
>>>>> klockstat -i 5 -n 10 (on a host not experiencing the problem)
>>>>> Caller Avg Hold Count Max hold Total hold
>>>>> b'[unknown]' 120316 1510 85537797 181677885
>>>>> b'[unknown]' 7119070 24 85527251 170857690
>>>>
>>>> Hi, this is your Linux kernel regression tracker.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the report.
>>>>
>>>> CCing the regression mailing list, as it should be in the loop for all
>>>> regressions, as explained here:
>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/reporting-issues.html__;!!JmoZiZGBv3RvKRSx!9uRzPn01pFuoHMQj2ZsxlSeY6NoNdYH6BxvEi_JHC4sZoqDTp8X2ZYrIRtIOhN7RM0PtxYLq4NIe9g0hJqZVpZdwVIY5$
>>>>
>>>> To be sure below issue doesn't fall through the cracks unnoticed, I'm
>>>> adding it to regzbot, my Linux kernel regression tracking bot:
>>>>
>>>> #regzbot ^introduced v5.10..v5.15
>>>> #regzbot title net: netfilter: Intermittent performance regression
>>>> related to ipset
>>>> #regzbot ignore-activity
>>>>
>>>> If it turns out this isn't a regression, free free to remove it from the
>>>> tracking by sending a reply to this thread containing a paragraph like
>>>> "#regzbot invalid: reason why this is invalid" (without the quotes).
>>>>
>>>> Reminder for developers: when fixing the issue, please add a 'Link:'
>>>> tags pointing to the report (the mail quoted above) using
>>>> lore.kernel.org/r/, as explained in
>>>> 'Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst' and
>>>> 'Documentation/process/5.Posting.rst'. Regzbot needs them to
>>>> automatically connect reports with fixes, but they are useful in
>>>> general, too.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sending this to everyone that got the initial report, to make
>>>> everyone aware of the tracking. I also hope that messages like this
>>>> motivate people to directly get at least the regression mailing list and
>>>> ideally even regzbot involved when dealing with regressions, as messages
>>>> like this wouldn't be needed then. And don't worry, if I need to send
>>>> other mails regarding this regression only relevant for regzbot I'll
>>>> send them to the regressions lists only (with a tag in the subject so
>>>> people can filter them away). With a bit of luck no such messages will
>>>> be needed anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Ciao, Thorsten (wearing his 'the Linux kernel's regression tracker' hat)
>>>>
>>>> P.S.: As the Linux kernel's regression tracker I'm getting a lot of
>>>> reports on my table. I can only look briefly into most of them and lack
>>>> knowledge about most of the areas they concern. I thus unfortunately
>>>> will sometimes get things wrong or miss something important. I hope
>>>> that's not the case here; if you think it is, don't hesitate to tell me
>>>> in a public reply, it's in everyone's interest to set the public record
>>>> straight.
>>>>
>>>
>>
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