Re: [PATCH v2 nf] netfilter: conntrack: remove offload_pickup sysctl again

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On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 03:02:15PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> These two sysctls were added because the hardcoded defaults (2 minutes,
> tcp, 30 seconds, udp) turned out to be too low for some setups.
> 
> They appeared in 5.14-rc1 so it should be fine to remove it again.
> 
> Marcelo convinced me that there should be no difference between a flow
> that was offloaded vs. a flow that was not wrt. timeout handling.
> Thus the default is changed to those for TCP established and UDP stream,
> 5 days and 120 seconds, respectively.
> 
> Marcelo also suggested to account for the timeout value used for the
> offloading, this avoids increase beyond the value in the conntrack-sysctl
> and will also instantly expire the conntrack entry with altered sysctls.
> 
> Example:
>    nf_conntrack_udp_timeout_stream=60
>    nf_flowtable_udp_timeout=60
> 
> This will remove offloaded udp flows after one minute, rather than two.
> 
> An earlier version of this patch also cleared the ASSURED bit to
> allow nf_conntrack to evict the entry via early_drop (i.e., table full).
> However, it looks like we can safely assume that connection timed out
> via HW is still in established state, so this isn't needed.
> 
> Quoting Oz:
>  [..] the hardware sends all packets with a set FIN flags to sw.
>  [..] Connections that are aged in hardware are expected to be in the
>  established state.
> 
> In case it turns out that back-to-sw-path transition can occur for
> 'dodgy' connections too (e.g., one side disappeared while software-path
> would have been in RETRANS timeout), we can adjust this later.

Yup. Maybe an early soft timeout in sw.

> 
> Cc: Oz Shlomo <ozsh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Paul Blakey <paulb@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Suggested-by: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@xxxxxxxxx>
> Signed-off-by: Florian Westphal <fw@xxxxxxxxx>

Reviewed-by: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@xxxxxxxxx>

Thanks!



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