On 19 February 2018 at 16:36, David Miller <davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > In my opinion, any resistence to integration with eBPF and XDP will > lead to even less adoption of netfilter as a technology. > > Therefore my plan is to move everything to be integrated around these > important core technologies. For the purposes of integration, code > coverage, performance, and the ability to juxtapose different bits of > eBPF code into larger optimized code streams that can also be > offloaded into hardware. Thanks for sharing your plans. I'll share mine. Debian already recommends using nftables rather than iptables. Probably in the next release cycle we (Debian) will give even more prominence to nftables by linking iptables to iptables-compat, as an opt-in for users, so we don't break systems. By the next-next release cycle (4+ years or so?) we will probably have enough confidence with compat/translation tools that Debian could fully wipe the old iptables binary to use just the nftables framework. Same for ip6tables, arptables, ebtables. Does this sound reasonable to you? Yes, probably major datacenters (google? facebook?, amazon?) they don't even care about what Debian is doing, since they are crafting their own distro anyway. But there are *a lot* of other people that do care about these migration plans. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html