Hi David, On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:44:59AM -0500, David Miller wrote: > From: Harald Welte <laforge@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:38:08 +0100 > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:27:27AM -0500, David Miller wrote: > >> > Would you be willing to merge nftables into kernel tools directory > >> > then? > >> > >> Did you miss the part where I explained that people explicitly disable > >> NFTABLES in their kernel configs in most if not all large datacenters? > > > > If people to chose to disable a certain feature, then that is their own > > decision to do so. We should respect that decision. Clearly they seem > > to have no interest in a better or more featureful packet filter, then. > > > > I mean, it's not like somebody proposes to implement NTFS inside the FAT > > filesystem kernel module because distributors (or data centers) tend to > > disable the NTFS module?! > > > > How is kernel development these days constrained by what some users may > > or may not put in their Kconfig? If they want a given feature, they > > must enable it. > > This discussion was about why iptables UABI still matters. > > And I'm trying to explain to you one of several reasons why it does. > > Also, instead of saying "They decided to not use NFTABLES, oh well > that is their problem" it might be more beneficial, especially in the > long term for netfilter, to think about "why". OK, so reading between the lines you're saying that nftables project has failed to provide an adequate successor to iptables? Cheers, Phil -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html