Re: netfilter question

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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Eric Desrochers <ericd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> My name is Eric and I'm reaching you today as I found your name in multiple netfilter kernel commits, and was hoping we can discuss about a potential regression.
>
> I identified (git bisect) this commit [https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/71ae0dff02d756e4d2ca710b79f2ff5390029a5f] as the one introducing a serious performance slowdown when using the binary ip/ip6tables with a large number of policies.
>
> I also tried with the latest and greatest v4.9-rc4 mainline kernel, and the slowdown is still present.
>
> So even commit [https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/a1a56aaa0735c7821e85c37268a7c12e132415cb] which introduce a 16 bytes alignment on xt_counter percpu allocations so that bytes and packets sit in same cache line, doesn't have impact too.
>
>
> Everything I found is detailed in the following bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1640786
>
> Of course, I'm totally aware that "iptables-restore" should be the favorite choice as it is way more efficient (note that using iptables-restore doesn't exhibit the problem) but some folks still rely on ip/ip6tables and might face this performance slowdown.
>
> I found the problem today, I will continue to investigate on my side, but I was wondering if we could have a discussion about this subject.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric
>

Hi Eric

Thanks for your mail. But you should CC it on netfilter-devel mailing list.

Key point is that we really care about fast path : packet processing.
And cited commit helps this a lot by lowering the memory foot print on
hosts with many cores.
This is a step into right direction.

Now we probably should batch the percpu allocations one page at a
time, or ask Tejun if percpu allocations could be really really fast
(probably much harder)

But really you should not use iptables one rule at a time...
This will never compete with iptables-restore. ;)

Florian, would you have time to work on a patch trying to group the
percpu allocations one page at a time ?
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