Re: [PATCH nftables 6/6] src: add trace support to nft monitor mode

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On 24.11, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:25:54AM +0000, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> > Tracing might be a long running operation. The cache can go out of sync, might
> > be better to do a lookup on demand.
> 
> We'll need to handle generations in that approach. The kernel lookup
> per trace will be expensive.
> 
> Why not just keep the cache in userspace and update it only when
> needed? We can easily detect when we get out of sync via ENOBUFS.
> 
> > Right now the caching infrastrucure has quite a lot of problems and I'd prefer
> > to get them fixed before we base new things on it.
> 
> The caching infrastructure only needs to have a mode to be populated
> via set information, then infer existing tables from handles as you
> indicated.
> 
> What other problems you see with it?

Well I keep running into problems with it. We already discussed a few, we're
dumping way to much information that we don't need and we're making nft
require root even for unpriviledged operations and just testing ruleset
syntax.

We're basing errors on a cache that might not be up to date.

When I list the bridge table, for some reason it lists *all* tables of all
families. We're basically doing full dumps of everything in many cases.
This will be absolutely killing performance with a big ruleset.

AFAIK (did not test) we're only listing sets for the family of the first
command, then set cache_initializer to true and skip further updates. When
the ruleset refers to multiple families, the contents will not be present
but expected.

It basically seems like the big hammer approach + some bugs instead of
selectively getting what we need when we need it and making sure its
up to date, at least before generating errors based on it.
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