Re: [PATCH nft v2 3/3] src: add xt compat support

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On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 09:36:17PM +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> On 09.04, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > At compilation time, you have to pass this option.
> > 
> >   # ./configure --with-xtables
> > 
> > And libxtables needs to be installed in your system.
> > 
> > This patch allows you to use xt extensions from nft, eg.
> > 
> >   # nft add rule filter output \
> >         tcp flags syn xt target TCPMSS [ --clamp-mss-to-pmtu ]
> > 
> > This feature requires that libxtables is installed in your system.
> > 
> > This provides access to all existing xt modules from nft. Users can
> > meanwhile use xt extension until we can provide native expressions.
> > 
> > You can build this optionally, if disabled it displays an error:
> > 
> >   # nft add rule filter output tcp flags syn xt target TCPMSS [ --clamp-mss-to-pmtu ]
> >   <cmdline>:1:38-77: Error: this build does not support xtables
> >   add rule filter output tcp flags syn xt target TCPMSS [ --clamp-mss-to-pmtu ]
> >                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > 
> > so you know your build doesn't support this.
> 
> Before review this patch, my main question is - are we sure we want to do
> this? How will this affect our plans to get rid of the iptables code
> at some point in the future? Arguably its a compatibility question, if we
> support this in nft people will use it and we can't simply remove it.

Good question.

I think we'll have to live with both codebases for quite a while
anyway, unfortunately we cannot skip that.

I think this code provides a way for users to easily migrate from
iptables to nftables.

They will only need to:

        iptables-compat-restore < ipt-ruleset.file

then, switch to nft and type:

        nft list ruleset > nft-ruleset.file

and start to replacing to native expressions progressively.

We also have a prototype translation layer (see xlate in the iptables
tree), that will provide an automatic translation whenever possible.

The idea is that they will periodically run something like:

        nft --migrate nft-ruleset.file

that will detect xt statements and will translate them to native
expressions whenever possible.

I think we have to ease adoption through these facilities, and new
nice features, of course.
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