On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 04:40:56PM -0700, David Miller wrote: > From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 23:05:40 +0200 > > > It seems, Windows stopped using tcp timestamps at least in windows 8 by > > default. > > Thankfully, Android device outnumber Windows 8 installs > by... something like 1,000 to 1, right? Heh, at minimum. :) > I throw a huge "doesn't matter" to whatever Windows's TCP stack > decides to do. It absolutely should not dictate whether we decide to > make use of this or that feature of TCP. It's a bit player at best. > > So if Windows 8 is the reason you're saying we shouldn't use > timestamps for anything, you're wrong. Actually, I don't care at all, because I don't do anything with windows and don't get paid by anyone who wants me to care. ;) But if we switch to a similar scheme as freebsd we can even care less because even if some other operating systems or a major provider decides to disable timestamps on their devices, we would still have window scaling, sack (and ecn?) under syn dos. So, I do think it is an improvement and don't see any disadvantages. So, I don't care as long as the change (and siphash or maybe another hashing scheme) is secure enough... Greetings, Hannes -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html