Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Wednesday 2010-03-24 16:02, Patrick McHardy wrote: >> Jan Engelhardt wrote: >>> xt_conntrack has been provided since v2.5.32. >>> >> I'm fine with the removal of old revisions, but how are you planning on >> informing users about removal of this module? Most people don't read >> feature-removal-schedule, and distributions are unable to help with >> user written scripts. > > I would suggest to do the same as we did with disallowing DROP in the > nat table: > > - a message printed by iptables whenever -m state is used > > - a kernel message whenever whenever a rule with xt_state is created > > We did not actually do the kernel side with nat-prohibit-DROP, but I > regard it as very useful, as the community was very much able to help > itself if only they got the word - and it turned out that dmesg is > _the_ place people look in especially when they don't supervise > iptables output directly, as with, for example, boot splash where > messages are hidden, or server/router devices that one tends to > forget about. Yes, a kernel message sounds fine and less annoying than an iptables message since we can limit it to print only once. I'm not really convinced of removing state though, I has never caused any maintenance overhead, it requires a lot less memory than xt_conntrack and it seems more intuitive to write "-m state" than "-m conntrack --ctstate" to me. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html